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>> what are your thoughts this morning personally? >> it's as if it were yesterday. it touches my heart like it does so many others. it was a beautiful, crisp day and now once again here we are 15 years later. the best thing about this is that this city there are buildings around here. people live here. they work here. there's a thriving place and it's a tribute to many who lost their lives. many said this morning that that this proves that the terrorist did not win. americans don't cower in fear, instead they're living their lives and living their lives fully and remembering those who died. willie?
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trail, hillary clinton forced to apologize after saying that half of donald trump's supporters fit into a quote basket of deplorables. hallie jackson has more. >> reporter: good morning. only a partial apology from hillary clinton after she made the comments at a fund-raiser in front of supporters on friday night. listen to what she said. >> you could put half of trump's supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. the raisist, sexist, xenophobic, islamophobic, you name it. >> reporter: donald trump pounced on her insulting comments. hillary clinton had her 47% moment, referencing the remarks from mitt romney that made him seem out of touch. trump said what a terrible thing that clinton said about so many great americans.
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hillary says she regrets saying half. that was wrong. she won't stop calling out racism and bigotry. she did not apologize for using the word deplorable. she went on with a number of ways that they have been deplorable, referencing the attacks on the gold star family and the support of the birther movement. all of it shows the race battlegrounds. >> we'll get to that in a second. how are the candidates commemorating 9/11 today? >> reporter: both will be attending that ceremony that rehema was just talking about. both are new yorkers and both only like so many americans have searing memories of 9/11. >> thanks so much. nicolle wallace was communications director for george w. bush.
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september 11, 2001, around she -- and she later served for the john mccain mccain. >> it's nice to be here. i'm usually watching wearing my pajamas. >> you can come in in your pajamas the next time. let's start with the campaign. the basket of deplorables. now goes into romney's 47% category in 2012 and in 2008, president obama talked about people clinging to their guns and religion fight to get those cameras inside the fund-raisers because that's when you hear what the candidates really think of each other. she said it before. this wasn't a slip of the tongue. she doesn't really have a lot of those. she correctly diagnosed the problem with her statement which was that she painted with too broad of a brush. but this is how she feels about some elements of trump's base. she feels he's given voice to the deplorable, alt-right. i didn't know what that was
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this -- she thinks he's legitimized white supremacy. this is how she feels about some of his base and her error in her view she painted with too broad of a brush. >> it was in 2008, they get bitter and they cling to guns and religion. then candidate hillary clinton said i was taken aback by the demeaning r t american, it was elitist and out of town and now people are saying it's the same thing about her. >> this will hurt her. you know, there's someone who is a frequent surrogate for her, vice president biden, the only person on her side that seems to be able to focus his attacks directly on trump. i think she could take a page out of his playbook and understand that she's not running against donald trump supporters. she actually needs to convert some of them to her cause.
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and sort of those rust belt states where this race is much tighter than the clinton camp would like it to be. >> halle referenced the new polls. we have arizona effectively tide. trump 42 and clinton 41. new hampshire 41-42. is this race, nicole, tighter that an lot of people think it is? >> listen, you know, i've liketioned him to the storm that goes off to sea and weakens around gains and comes bearing down on her. >> i want to talk about your experience on 9/11. you were in the white house when it happened. what was it like that day? >> so i was watching -- we had our meeting at 8:00. so at 8:30 i returned to the office. we were watching the "today" show. i saw that second plane hit and then i watched the replay. i cannot look away. i remember the secret service agents went through all of our offices and evacuated us, and some refused to leave.
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they looked at -- the agents looked at the women and said, take off your shoes and run. we went running from the white house, reluctantly. i remember calling my dad. he said where are you going? we're running out of the white house. where are you running to? they said to run for our lives. my whole staff went to my apartment in georgetown and worked from home, but we got the message that night that the president expected us back at the desk at 7:00 the next morning to get back to work. >> you were the. >> nicolle wallace, thank you. see you next time in your pjs and slippers. around three dozen people were taken to the hospital in hartford, connecticut, when multiple floors of a deck collapsed during the off campus house party. it was packed with students at the time of the accident. authorities now saying it was a miracle no one was seriously hurt. the woman who was famously killed by a sailor has died at the age of 92.
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dental assistant when she was grabbed and kissed during a vj day celebration in new york's times square on august 14, 1945. the photo was one of the most enduring images representing the end of world war i i. she said it wasn't much of a kiss. and central michigan pulled off a win on a wild play that should not have been. a hail mary and lateral on the untimed down at the very end of the game gave them a 30-27 win. look at the catch, the toss, the run and the zone. but the play never should have happened because central michigan had been flagged for intentional grounding on the previous play. a penalty that should have given central michigan the win. central michigan getting the one more down was a mistake. and the sports world is divide over san francisco 49ers quarterback colin kaepernick and his decision not to stand for the national anthem. it's his protest he says against the way african-americans are
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saturday, the seattle seahawks revealed they'll make a statement of their own today standing together with arms linked before their game against the miami dolphins. matt lauer sat down with commissioner roger goodell over weekend and talked about the controversy. >> i think a majority of the league's players are african-american. do you want them to take a leading role in bringing attention to the issues like the one that colin kaepernick is bringing attention to? >> i think our history is that we do. we play a role in society, an important role in society. u we're careful about this because we still believe that at the bottom people come to enjoy this sport. they enjoy -- they come to enjoy the game. but they recognize the importance that the nfl plays in our society. we have to be responsible for that. it's one of the things that we spend an awful lot of time focused on. >> are you proud or colin
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stand? >> listen, i'm proud of those standing out on issues that need to be changed in our society. we don't live in a perfect society, matt. our players have strong views about things. i support them speaking out about that. but that's what the focus should be on. the changes he should be -- >> does it make you proud or nervous when you see it? >> i think when our players speak out and they feel strongly and passionate about i think it's a good thing for us. what i do believe is the respect for our country, the people who fought for those freedoms and values and the people who protect us here and abroad, they're important. you will see it on sunday. we're a patriotic league. >> sunday by the way is the 15th anniversary of the attacks of 9/11. a heightened sense of patriotism. is it more difficult to see if players kneel or sit -- >> i don't think so. we encourage our players to be
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but they have rights also. we have to respect that. >> you may know that you're also in the headlines for some other reasons. tom brady is going to sit out the first four games of the season. suspension as a result of what we called deflategate. can you look me in the eye and tell me as the commissioner of the nfl that you feel 100% certain that you got this right? >> yes. because we went through a very exhausting process with this. we had an independent investigation. we had against it. it went to the appellate court. the appellate court at that point in time said, listen, there's compelling if not overwhelming evidence here. there's absolutely no question that the destruction of evidence should be considered by the commissioner in the context of this. and that the process was properly followed. we collectively bargained a process for discipline. we went through that. i can't think of an issue that's
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marquee players of the game, one of the legends of the sport that four games is the appropriate suspension for whatever the violation -- >> matt, with all due respect, every player, every team, is subject to the same rules. we don't have rules for marquee players and we don't have rules for marquee teams. >> and you can catch the patriots taking on the cardinals tonight. the pregame begins at 7:00 eastern right here on nbc. you can see much more of matt's interview with commissioner "today." don't miss that. let's bring in our good buddy dylan dwyer. sorry we're waking you up. >> i was missing that 5:00 a.m. wake-up call. >> you had big saturday nights -- >> fantastic. pancakes every morning. >> it sucks you back in. >> i couldn't resist. >> you're a huge patriots fan. as you sat and listened to the good commissioner you had some concerns. are you ready for life after tom
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feel for garoppolo right now. i think he's got a good team behind him. i think the games are going to go fine. but imagine what he's feeling leasing up to the game -- leading up to the game. he has tough shoes to fill. >> but he has tom brady coaching him. how about a look at the weather? >> we have been dealing with humid conditions in the northeast and yesterday was kind of hard to breathe. we have been seeing that humidity in areas across new england and new york and right down into the but we have an area of high pressure in st. louis. that's going to help to bring in the crisp, dry air. thanks to the cold front. chicago started off at 53 degrees that's where the cooler air is sitting. once the cold front moves through we'll start to see that cooler air move back in. we have some heavier thunderstorms. nothing too severe. heavy thunderstorms are moving through most of new england, especially new hampshire and western massachusetts. once we start to see that clear the area, we'll see increasing sunshine where it is cloudy right now. then it will stay sunny through
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temperatures dropping down into the 70s. that's a look at the weather across the country. now a peek out your window. acro is a peak out your window. ? ? comfy >> that's comfy chairs -- >> you like this? >> how do you feel about the patriots? jimmy garoppolo. >> i think he'll do fine. i mean, a hard four games without brady. but i think he's going to do fine.
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>> i like tom brady he's so cute. >> stick around for the highs and lows of the week including the presidential candidate who had us asking the existential question, what is aleppo? and plus a homecoming for the flags at ground zero after the attacks. we'll tell you where it's been all these years. and the family members of those who died in 9/11 are becoming firefighters themselves. we're coming right back. you're earning unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. like on that new laptop. quicksilver keeps things simple, gary. and smart, like you! and i like that. i guess i am pretty smart. don't let that go to your head, gary.
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when he heard on tv the flag was missing, he asked the firefighters to return it to new york city. after a forensic investigation, it was determined this is likely the right thing. this week a group of everett police officers traveled to new york to participate in a ceremony at national september 11th memorial and museum where that flag will now remain. isn't that incredible? he was watching a documentary on the history channel and heard they were looking for the flag and said i've got the flag. >> the fact it made i way there and back. >> anonymously dropped at a fire station. >> nothing like images like that. it's nice to keep that together. the first low goes to presidential candidate gary johnson as he attempts to climb to the magic 15% polling threshold to get on the debate stage with hillary clinton and donald trump in a couple weeks. he did not help himself on an interview on "morning joe" when
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elected about aleppo, about aleppo. >> and what is aleppo? >> you're kidding? >> no. >> aleppo is in syria. it's the epicenter of the refugee crisis -- >> okay. got it. got it. >> if you think that was tough to watch, johnson said quote, i feel horrible. i have got to get smarter. >> you were sitting there. you can't help >> yeah. >> this divided people because a lot of people felt sorry for him to be caught in the moment. it was like katie couric, sarah palin -- as someone that wants to be president of the country, you should know where children are being hurt and killed. >> it's on the front page of the newspaper every day. the next high, a florida state university star receiver travis rudolph. on a visit to a middle school,
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autistic boy eating alone and he sat down and ate with him. they are best pals now. travis sis surprised beau with the w his own jersey. travis scored a touchdown at game and florida state came back to win the game. that officially makes beau the good luck charm. i love that story. >> we went to school that one day, he had lunch, sat there it's incredible. >> his mother said he became much more popular in the lunchroom. >> kindness. the next low, apple's hotly anticipated new product seeming terrible but we'll own it in the next six weeks. apple unveiled the iphone 7. more sophisticated camera and no jack for the headphones. now apple informed us we're all
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on the phones. critics like the slim new phone but worry about the ipods, chances of you losing them on day one at 93%. another thing i got to keep track of. >> i'm not going there. >> i lose the ones with the wire immediately. >> you're hopeless. the next, the mom that struggled on donuts with dad's day. she was dropping off 12-year-old elijah when she noticed a lot of elijah said it was donuts for dad's day and she sprung into action. they raced home and put together a dad getup with fake mustache, fake shirt and dab of cologne like that elijah had a wing man for donuts with dad day. evette posted these saying she seen the sad look on her son's face when father son events pops up. she heard from single parents all over the world this week. and instead of another low,
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having our city's institutions up and running sends a message that new york city is open for business. "saturday night live" is one of our great new york city institutions and that's why it's important for you to do your show tonight. >> can we be funny? >> that was new york mayor rudy giuliani flanked by the city's finest and bravest opening "saturday night live" on september 29, 2001. and giving the country permission to laugh. it was the first "snl" after the attacks of 9/11. those attacks killed nearly 3,000 innocent people from the world trade center to the pentagon, to a field in
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ridgewood, new jersey, my hometown. to the world, they were numbers in a staggering death toll that meant america was going to war. but to the residents of a town of 25,000 people, they were family and friends who suddenly and inexplicably were not coming home. 15 years on, i went back home to visit some old friends. one who lost his dad, another who lost her mom. lori steinberg was the first kid i met when i moved from to new jersey halfway through kindergarten. she lived next door. so this is the cut-through. it was this easy to get from the geist house to the steinberg's house. i went to her house for piano lessons we were not good. >> not good at all. >> i felt like we were we didn't dedicated to the cause. >> we weren't. >> her mom's big laugh would carry across to our house. >> i was talking to my dad this morning, he said he could sit inside his house, closed doors,
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mom's laugh. he's like she had the best laugh. lori's parents were rarely seen apart because they were rarely apart. mike and gina met as kids in poland. reunited and fell in love in brooklyn. moved to ridgewood, new jersey, to raise their family and car pooled together into new york's financial district where they worked. >> she was a professional woman. she wasn't like a lot of the moms on our street or our town. she was up early go up early. worked a full day and then would come home and like tote us around for errands and other things in the evenings. >> by september of 2001, lori had long since moved out of the house and was living in the city. she could see the twin towers from her street. [ sirens ] >> by the time i went outside the towers i saw were on fire, you know?
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>> fires that could be seen 25 miles away in ridgewood, where residents gathered at the view. it seemed like everyone in town knew someone in the towers. but back in manhattan, lori was focused on only one person. her mom. >> i started calling her office phone. i started to call her cell phone. there was never -- never an answer to either one. so wentou arc of emotions of being like, okay, the north tower got hit. i hope she works -- i didn't know which building she worked in. >> you didn't know which one? >> no. she loved the fact she worked on the 96th floor. she loved it because she was above the cloud line. >> the 96st floor, the middle of the impact zone of flight 11. >> my father would say he knew
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you know, he worked on wall street. when he saw all of the debris and papers flying past his window that he knew right away. >> just four stories below gina's office was another of my neighbor's and family friends. 44-year-old john bandandeber. but he was able to call home. >> my dad had been in contact this morning. and the phones were over there and voice. he was saying my name on the line. i didn't really speak to him. you could hear sirens in the background. that was the last phone call that had come through. >> johnny was just 14 that day. in his first week of high school. >> i remember my uncle tom coming in and opening the door to my class and he said, johnny, we have to go. >> his little sisters janie and molly were 9 and 5. their dad, a fixture around
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remember of your dad. and the one thing everyone said was he was there. he was -- >> he was at everything. he worked in the city. he got out after the market closed at 4:00, 4:30, so he was home at 5:30, 6:00 for the practice. this is my dad. this is the man he ran the trading desk with. this is chris, one of the young guys on the desk. >> up on the floor? tower one. my birthday i used to asked if i could skip school and be with him. >> he was killed and his body was found two weeks later. >> as terrible as we were in this position that we were in, we kind of got lucky with everything and how it played out, you know, my mom was able to speak to him on the phone. we actually were able to recover him and bring him home. and just the thought that a lot
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>> i'm wearing it. >> wow. >> yeah. which is actually really nice. >> that's incredible. >> the kid i used to baby-sit is now married with a daughter named marlowe and another on the way with wife mallory. he followed his dad into finance. johnny credits his big family with getting him here. >> my two uncles really made it clear that, you know, look, this has happened but we're getting back to normal life. this isn't going to be the defining factor for you rest of your life. you know, things will go on from here. >> a national tragedy to most of us, but a very personal one for lori and johnny. they feel it in big ways on big days. and in small ways every day. >> if i see someone and we say good-bye i wonder if that's the last time i'll see them. which is just because of what i have been through. in my office at work, i actually
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flashlight, kind of strange things like that i don't think anyone really thinks of. but for whatever reason in my mind, i think i have to have this. >> how has it changed you? >> i mean, there's like a responsiveness to phone calls that i think i and my family have that maybe not everybody has. like phone calls from my dad and my sister don't generally go unanswered. >> lori now works in a field similar to her and she's a doting aunt to her sister julie's young children. do you talk about your mom at a moment like that when babies are born and family milestones? >> no, no. we don't do a lot of talking about my mom. i talk about my mom with other people. i do not spend a lot of time talking about my mother and reminiscing with my immediate family. >> reminiscing still can be too painful. >> you know me sister and i talk about it every once in a while.
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comes up and we'll pick each other's brains. i haven't done that with molly yet. i don't know how she feels about it. she would be wanting to talk about it. i don't know what she really remembers if anything. >> with a small memorial at the center of town, ridgewood remembers the day that altered johnny and lori's lives forever. john and gina's names listed with ten others who kissed their families and went to work. john was a huge bruce springsteen fan. another trait he passed on the his kids. springsteen personally autographed a program from the memorial service and bruce sent
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lori said the loss brought her closer to her dad who has since remarried. and she has the loudest laugh in the tri-state area. i guess she got it from her mom. next on sunday "today," following in the footsteps. first responders living up to the legacy of their relatives. the heroes of 9/11, after this break and your local weather. you know how it is, someone does something nice for you and you feel obligated to do something nice back. maybe your aunt sent you a crocheted scarf, you sent a thank you note... and the crochet just kept on coming. well, at carmax, you don't have to return the favor. they'll buy your car even if you don't buy a car from them.
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burning buildings to save strangers. they awed all of us and as stephanie gosk explains inspiring some of their own families into service. >> reporter: the day left an indelible mark. the country wouldn't be the same. but on the anniversary we are reminded that for thousands the national tragedy was also a personal one. their lives wouldn't be the same grader at the time. you didn't want to be a police officer? >> i wanted to grow up to play baseball. >> reporter: that changed when his beloved uncle george leahy the police officer in precinct 6 who used to dress up to scare the kids on halloween ran into tower one. >> he wound up leaving a message, tell the boys i'm fine, two planes hit the building.
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>> reporter: not far away, port authority office george howard who had the day off ran in to help. his son christopher was 18 years old. >> i went to my grandmother's house around 2:30. she said your dad -- we can't find him. you know, no way to get in touch with him. >> reporter: howard and leahy were two of first responders to die that day. 23 from the police officer. 37 from the port authority police and department. >> everybody went there that day with the idea in their head that they'd get everybody out of that building. that's why they went in. that's why they went out. no one said that we're not going to be able to do this. >> reporter: that commitment to heb others was in large part was the inspiration for them to follow in the footsteps of the men they loved dearly. >> he put others before himself.
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firs >> reporter: you work in the same precinct as your uncle. >> yeah. >> reporter: why? >> i wanted to live that experience of working the same place that he did. he got along with everybody and everybody loved him. you know, everybody said how much of an honor it was that i was working there. >> reporter: for howard, it was about fulfilling his dad's life long dream. >> my dad wanted to be a fireman. he started out with a d.c. fire department when he was 18. >> reporter: the year after 9/11, howard had a chance to be a firefighter himself. his father's friends guide him. >> they were firemen. they were saying the same thing you have to take that job, it's the greatest job in the world you'll never look back. my helmet, i keep a sticker for my dad. >> reporter: for both men, it can trigger painful memories. >> you meet a bunch of different guys who worked with my dad. one guy was with my dad and he survived. he never saw him again. >> not a day goes by that i
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think about him. my shield number is 18949. >> reporter: every anniversary the family visits the memorial. it is remarkable what this area has turned into, isn't it? >> yeah. like 15 years ago you would never thought that we'd rebuild and have such a beautiful memorial down here. >> reporter: when the list of victims is read every year, the family waits in silence to hear his uncle's name. james patrick leahy. >> repte anniversary means retelling his father's story. his name and badge made famous by george w. bush in the days following the attack. >> it is the police shield of george howard. who died at the world trade center trying to save others. >> that makes me more and more proud to share my father's story so he doesn't get forgotten. no one gets forgotten because really that day has shaped where we are today as a nation. >> reporter: the same way their lives were shaped by their loss. >> he gave his life on one of
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fill, you know, being in the sixth precinct. >> i just want to make my dad proud. you know? i want to live my life in the way that i think he would have wanted me to live it. never do anything that tarnishes his name. >> and stephanie gosk joins me now, live. good morning. good to see you. >> good morning. >> there's the biological family. they look up to the hero, fathers and uncle and the larger families of cops and firefighters that all l o that support system from the department and the friends and the colleagues was so important to them in their lives as kids and continues to guide them today. >> since they lost all the guys, there's been a lot more loss for the fdny and nypd to people who breathe things in at that site, they're losing as many people today as then. >> those guys went and stayed there. in a lot of cases they were recovering their colleagues and
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there for weeks. and now they are suffering the health effects from it. by very, very conservative efforts more than a thousand people who worked in the debris field has die and the number is much higher than that. on top of that, you have the illnesses, 12% of the first responders developed asthma in the five years after that. >> and they'll be covered until 2090 in the healt coming up, harry smith with a remembrance. where we a hmmmmmm..... hmmmmm... [ "dreams" by beck ] hmmmmm... the turbocharged dream machine. the volkswagen golf gti.
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in many ways the memories of the morning of tuesday, fresh as if they happened yesterday. we all know exactly where we were, who we were with and how we felt. but 15 years is a long time. the country and the world have changed. harry smith on the road we have travelled since 9/11. >> 9/11. on a crystal clear morning, 15
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how is it an incident so seared in our memory can seem to have happened yesterday? and at the same time, in some distant past. for days, we couldn't look away. we were glued to the coverage. the stories of those lost. the heroism of the first responders. the heroics of ordinary people. who grieved, and we grieved. the why and the how rattled our nerves. destroyed our sense of security. the dots became clear. but why were they not connected? >> we have a plane -- >> for a while, we as a people were united in a way we hadn't
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and the world felt as we did. there was comfort in knowing we were not alone. when the first anniversary came, we relived it all. the wounds both physical and psychic were still fresh. >> katherine -- >> jerome baptist. >> we listened to the names and wept again as we had the year before. we did the same thne but less so over time. and that solidarity, we were so proud of, splintered apart as the war in iraq began. >> the dictator of iraq and his weapons of mass destruction are a threat to the security of free nations. >> the danger from baghdad had been oversold. we as a people were underprepared for what unfolded thereafter.
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many lives. just what had we gotten into? time doesn't heal all wounds. and there really is no such thing as closure. but we do move on. except for those directly affected, 9/11 is quickly becoming history. the stuff of archives. something that happened to someone else. although isn't it interesting on this 9/11, we feel it a little more than we have in some year past. maybe it's because of san bernardino. because of orlando. because of nice, because of paris. we know that what happened then is still very much -- very much with us. >> yeah. 15 years ago we started a war.
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covering it 15 years later. it's hard to think it would be history to us, a piece of the archives but i think about my kids who are 9 and 7. they have no concept. it will become a page in the history book. >> 40 million americans now were not alive or not living here when 9/11 happened. 40 million more americans. it's becoming very much like as a kid, when we were kids, we would see the newsreel footage of the bombing of pearl harbor. >> sure. >> that was something of history. >> it is now for a lot of young kids. 's it comes with a pen so you can write as you please this mac doesn't have any of that it's less useful like a hat for your cat surface has touch and a beautiful screen you can see things like they've never been seen this mac doesn't quite compare it's slower, heavy, and a bit square fold it in half, hello when you start lighter than air, you can doodle a heart yes it's plain to see the surface pro 4 is made for me
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later. thank you for spending part of your morning with us. our thoughts today are with the men and women whose lives were taken in full view of the world 15 years ago this morning. both the people who were just going to work on a tuesday morning and the brave heroes who rushed in to try to save them. may each of the 2,977 victims
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from nbc news in washington, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> good sunday evening. this morning a huge american the attack there. in lower manhattan, observed a moment of silence at 8:46 a.m. eastern time, marking the moment when the first plane flight 11 flew into the north tower of the world trade center. immediately afterwards, as they do every year, relatives began reading the names of the victims of the attacks at the world trade center. edward l. allegretto

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